I got this color way along with the vintage grey and can say that if you are looking for a heavier and warmer wearing hoodie for the fall and winter than this is as good as it gets. The crop, much like the vintage grey, is perfect to visibly underneath layers, tons of room in the hoodie when wearing up, and looser fitting cuffs for a nice and comfortable feel/look. I really like this hoodies quality compared to the price you pay for it.